Discussion:
Hemorrhoids (dairy, meat, peanuts)
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jay
2007-11-07 18:03:43 UTC
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According to most web pages, hemorrhoids, inflammed veins in rectum,
are caused by increased blood pressure from sitting or standing,
straining, constipation, obesity, pregnancy, etc. Even my GI says the
same. However this does not match my experience. In my case,
hemorrhoids are strongly related to dairy, meat and peanut consumption
regardless of other factors like exercise, sitting/standing, fiber
intake, fluid intake, etc. Each time I remove them from my diet,
rhoids subside. Each time I add them to my diet, they reappear. I have
observed this pattern repeatedly over several years. Have others
noticed a similar pattern?

I do have a lot of "allergic reactions" to many common foods. Some of
my worst rhoids have been from homemade kefir, yogurt and store bought
riccota cheese. In the past, if I were to eat a large serving one day
while one a veggie/fruit diet, the rhoids would show up several days
later and take a week or so to subside.

Recenlty, I had been including a tiny portion of meat each day and
after two weeks, I could sense some soreness. Then one night, I
ordered butter milk pancakes at IHOP. Boy did I enjoy the carbo load
along with a slice of butter and all four flavors (traditional, butter
pecan, strawberry and blueberry) of syrups. The next morning I paid
with bleeding rhoids :(
Roger Zoul
2007-11-07 18:38:05 UTC
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Well, if you're sure about what's causing your problems, it would seem wise
to quite eating those foods. I do wonder if the problem might be nuts or
dairy rather than meat. You mght be better trying to eliminate nuts & dairy
first and see how things go with the meat left in. If ok, bring one of the
other two back. Etc until you've really isolated the problem.
Post by jay
According to most web pages, hemorrhoids, inflammed veins in rectum,
are caused by increased blood pressure from sitting or standing,
straining, constipation, obesity, pregnancy, etc. Even my GI says the
same. However this does not match my experience. In my case,
hemorrhoids are strongly related to dairy, meat and peanut consumption
regardless of other factors like exercise, sitting/standing, fiber
intake, fluid intake, etc. Each time I remove them from my diet,
rhoids subside. Each time I add them to my diet, they reappear. I have
observed this pattern repeatedly over several years. Have others
noticed a similar pattern?
I do have a lot of "allergic reactions" to many common foods. Some of
my worst rhoids have been from homemade kefir, yogurt and store bought
riccota cheese. In the past, if I were to eat a large serving one day
while one a veggie/fruit diet, the rhoids would show up several days
later and take a week or so to subside.
Recenlty, I had been including a tiny portion of meat each day and
after two weeks, I could sense some soreness. Then one night, I
ordered butter milk pancakes at IHOP. Boy did I enjoy the carbo load
along with a slice of butter and all four flavors (traditional, butter
pecan, strawberry and blueberry) of syrups. The next morning I paid
with bleeding rhoids :(
Jim
2007-11-07 23:25:15 UTC
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Post by jay
According to most web pages, hemorrhoids, inflammed veins in rectum,
are caused by increased blood pressure from sitting or standing,
straining, constipation, obesity, pregnancy, etc. Even my GI says the
same. However this does not match my experience. In my case,
hemorrhoids are strongly related to dairy, meat and peanut consumption
regardless of other factors like exercise, sitting/standing, fiber
intake, fluid intake, etc.
Avoid foods and drinks that may make hemorrhoids worse, including spicy
food, nuts, coffee and alcohol.
Post by jay
Each time I remove them from my diet,
rhoids subside. Each time I add them to my diet, they reappear. I have
observed this pattern repeatedly over several years. Have others
noticed a similar pattern?
I do have a lot of "allergic reactions" to many common foods. Some of
my worst rhoids have been from homemade kefir, yogurt and store bought
riccota cheese. In the past, if I were to eat a large serving one day
while one a veggie/fruit diet, the rhoids would show up several days
later and take a week or so to subside.
Recenlty, I had been including a tiny portion of meat each day and
after two weeks, I could sense some soreness. Then one night, I
ordered butter milk pancakes at IHOP. Boy did I enjoy the carbo load
along with a slice of butter and all four flavors (traditional, butter
pecan, strawberry and blueberry) of syrups. The next morning I paid
with bleeding rhoids :(
There is a difference between the "cause" of hemorrhoids and repeated
flare-ups.

The root of hemorrhoids is distended blood vessels which have lost
normal elasticity somehow - damaged vascular structure.

A flare-up is the irritation of this often retained biological entity to
cause the swelling and soreness and occasional bleeding.

When the flare-up clears, you can still feel or even often see damaged
tissue structures. Perhaps you can have your doctor or someone you trust
take pictures of your troubled area, but this will only show damage
which is pretty superficial, deeper anal venous damage requires more
sophisticated imaging.

The foods you eat will periodically cause irritation of a damaged
vascular structure. This damaged vascular structure often remains when
the irritation is gone.

Preparation H "treats" the irritation symptom, it doesn't cure the
damaged vascular structure. You keep on needing it, time after time.

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Causes of Hemorrhoids

The main reason why Hemorrhoids develop is because of the failure of the
veins in the pelvic and rectal region to sustain the pressure created
during the passing of stool through the anus. Due to such pressure blood
gets blocked in the veins and causes them to swell. Increased pressure
in the veins results in *damage* *to* *the* *veins*, and that causes
irritation or itching in the surrounding area. About 60% of people
across the world are suffering from the symptoms of Hemorrhoids.
Incidentally, Hemorrhoids is not all that a very harmful disease, but
ignorance of how it is treated makes it more dangerous. As time passes
the pressure on the veins increases and the condition of the Hemorrhoids
becomes more serious. Tissue around the Hemorrhoids gets damaged and
causes pain, irritation or an itching sensation. The itching sensation
then turns into a burning sensation and blood is seen during the passing
of stool.
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Hope for Hemorrhoid Patients

The Truth: It is believed that Hemorrhoids are not so harmful but the
truth is that bleeding Hemorrhoids, external Hemorrhoids and internal
Hemorrhoids can give rise to more serious health problems.

Hemorrhoids Treatments: There are various therapies available for
treating Hemorrhoids. The choice of which therapy to use depends on the
cause and type of Hemroids.

Hemorrhoids Symptoms: Hemorrhoids Symptoms vary from person to person.

Causes of Hemorrhoids: There are many factors that can cause Hemorrhoids.

Cure: Hemorrhoids are fully curable with careful and proper treatment.

Avoid foods and drinks that may make hemorrhoids worse, including spicy
food, nuts, coffee and alcohol.

Serious cases of hemorrhoids (third and fourth degree) may require
hemorrhoidectomy, rubber band ligation, sclerotherapy, infrared
photocoagulation, cryotherapy, bipolar diathermy or laser therapy.
jay
2007-11-08 02:42:37 UTC
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Thx for the info.
Post by Jim
When the flare-up clears, you can still feel or even often see damaged
tissue structures. Perhaps you can have your doctor or someone you trust
take pictures of your troubled area, but this will only show damage
which is pretty superficial, deeper anal venous damage requires more
sophisticated imaging.
You are correct. Colonoscopy showed internal rhoids even when I was on
a veggie/fruit diet and was not experiencing a flare-up.
Post by Jim
Avoid foods and drinks that may make hemorrhoids worse, including spicy
food, nuts, coffee and alcohol.
That's probably the best course. Surprisingly neither turmeric or
gutted jalepenos seem to cause a flare-up in my case.
Cubit
2007-11-08 16:04:26 UTC
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My wild guess is that hemorrhoids are part of living beyond the normal human
lifespan of 30.

Diseases that effect survival, which manifest after the age of reproduction,
will not have had evolutionary pressure against them. In fact, a tribe just
needs one or two elderly to carry on verbal traditions and education. The
rest of the elders would just be burden to the tribe.

The body gets old, and you fall apart.

Our bodies are designed to self-destruct.

I don't know much about treatment for hemorrhoids, but I have found many
interesting things on Wikipedia. -that is where I would start.
Post by jay
According to most web pages, hemorrhoids, inflammed veins in rectum,
are caused by increased blood pressure from sitting or standing,
straining, constipation, obesity, pregnancy, etc. Even my GI says the
same. However this does not match my experience. In my case,
hemorrhoids are strongly related to dairy, meat and peanut consumption
regardless of other factors like exercise, sitting/standing, fiber
intake, fluid intake, etc. Each time I remove them from my diet,
rhoids subside. Each time I add them to my diet, they reappear. I have
observed this pattern repeatedly over several years. Have others
noticed a similar pattern?
I do have a lot of "allergic reactions" to many common foods. Some of
my worst rhoids have been from homemade kefir, yogurt and store bought
riccota cheese. In the past, if I were to eat a large serving one day
while one a veggie/fruit diet, the rhoids would show up several days
later and take a week or so to subside.
Recenlty, I had been including a tiny portion of meat each day and
after two weeks, I could sense some soreness. Then one night, I
ordered butter milk pancakes at IHOP. Boy did I enjoy the carbo load
along with a slice of butter and all four flavors (traditional, butter
pecan, strawberry and blueberry) of syrups. The next morning I paid
with bleeding rhoids :(
Roger Zoul
2007-11-08 16:51:03 UTC
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Cubit wrote:
:: My wild guess is that hemorrhoids are part of living beyond the
:: normal human lifespan of 30.

What?

::
:: Diseases that effect survival, which manifest after the age of
:: reproduction, will not have had evolutionary pressure against them.
:: In fact, a tribe just needs one or two elderly to carry on verbal
:: traditions and education. The rest of the elders would just be
:: burden to the tribe.
::
:: The body gets old, and you fall apart.
::
:: Our bodies are designed to self-destruct.
::
:: I don't know much about treatment for hemorrhoids, but I have found
:: many interesting things on Wikipedia. -that is where I would start.
::
::
::
:: "jay" <***@hotmail.com> wrote in message
:: news:***@19g2000hsx.googlegroups.com...
::: According to most web pages, hemorrhoids, inflammed veins in rectum,
::: are caused by increased blood pressure from sitting or standing,
::: straining, constipation, obesity, pregnancy, etc. Even my GI says
::: the same. However this does not match my experience. In my case,
::: hemorrhoids are strongly related to dairy, meat and peanut
::: consumption regardless of other factors like exercise,
::: sitting/standing, fiber intake, fluid intake, etc. Each time I
::: remove them from my diet, rhoids subside. Each time I add them to
::: my diet, they reappear. I have observed this pattern repeatedly
::: over several years. Have others noticed a similar pattern?
:::
::: I do have a lot of "allergic reactions" to many common foods. Some
::: of my worst rhoids have been from homemade kefir, yogurt and store
::: bought riccota cheese. In the past, if I were to eat a large
::: serving one day while one a veggie/fruit diet, the rhoids would
::: show up several days later and take a week or so to subside.
:::
::: Recenlty, I had been including a tiny portion of meat each day and
::: after two weeks, I could sense some soreness. Then one night, I
::: ordered butter milk pancakes at IHOP. Boy did I enjoy the carbo load
::: along with a slice of butter and all four flavors (traditional,
::: butter pecan, strawberry and blueberry) of syrups. The next morning
::: I paid with bleeding rhoids :(
a***@gmail.com
2014-03-02 19:02:29 UTC
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Same with me! I have only read that lactose intolerance causes bloating. However my only symptom is frequent small bowel movements which over a week or a month result in hemmorrhoids. It is only after strictly limiting my diet to no milk products at all (accept a little butter) that my symptom cleared up. A day or two after consuming milk products again it comes back. I suspect I am both lactose and milk-protein intolerant. I avoid all breads with whey (most unlabeled "fresh" breads and donuts contain whey), all cheeses.. anything with milk products. However, though I am still experimenting, I seem to get away with having a little butter. It took me a couple of years to to link all this together. I have been happily tight-assed since.
Post by jay
I do have a lot of "allergic reactions" to many common foods. Some of
my worst rhoids have been from homemade kefir, yogurt and store bought
riccota cheese. In the past, if I were to eat a large serving one day
while one a veggie/fruit diet, the rhoids would show up several days
later and take a week or so to subside.
Recenlty, I had been including a tiny portion of meat each day and
after two weeks, I could sense some soreness. Then one night, I
ordered butter milk pancakes at IHOP. Boy did I enjoy the carbo load
along with a slice of butter and all four flavors (traditional, butter
pecan, strawberry and blueberry) of syrups. The next morning I paid
with bleeding rhoids :(
l***@gmail.com
2014-04-10 17:55:25 UTC
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Post by jay
According to most web pages, hemorrhoids, inflammed veins in rectum,
are caused by increased blood pressure from sitting or standing,
straining, constipation, obesity, pregnancy, etc. Even my GI says the
same. However this does not match my experience. In my case,
hemorrhoids are strongly related to dairy, meat and peanut consumption
regardless of other factors like exercise, sitting/standing, fiber
intake, fluid intake, etc. Each time I remove them from my diet,
rhoids subside. Each time I add them to my diet, they reappear. I have
observed this pattern repeatedly over several years. Have others
noticed a similar pattern?
I do have a lot of "allergic reactions" to many common foods. Some of
my worst rhoids have been from homemade kefir, yogurt and store bought
riccota cheese. In the past, if I were to eat a large serving one day
while one a veggie/fruit diet, the rhoids would show up several days
later and take a week or so to subside.
Recenlty, I had been including a tiny portion of meat each day and
after two weeks, I could sense some soreness. Then one night, I
ordered butter milk pancakes at IHOP. Boy did I enjoy the carbo load
along with a slice of butter and all four flavors (traditional, butter
pecan, strawberry and blueberry) of syrups. The next morning I paid
with bleeding rhoids :(
try eating some Radish, some people even make a paste and apply it with a sitz bath. Overall they should shrink back down to normal in no time
v***@gmail.com
2016-09-16 16:52:17 UTC
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Hi I am veer I just add my experience about this, i have internal piles, when i go to piles specialist after one year for checkup . doctor told me after physical check up that I have had internal piles. Then told me for surgery otherwise it won't cure. I asked I too week for operation. So I left it. Than I go for ayuervedic treatment previously I am treated with tablet named himalay piles and piles ointment these medicine help to cure with little bleeding once in a week. After second month same cont... Ultimately bleed in stops. Than after I get itching, doctor said it due to acidity. Than treated with zandu panchalist a little bit acidity gone than after treated with zandu nityam tablets but after 4 tablets itching is more i can't bear it. Then treated avail tablets to calm down itching. It little bit helps to down itching. But not completely. Than after I start applying camphor mixed with coconut oil to affected area twice daily along snidz bathing after 3 days itching gone. With this I eat an apple per day and drink one glass of water during morning and afternoon per hour. My meals includes rice with tomato curry which free of spices and chilly. Yoga pranayam every morning once. Now I am free of itching and bleeding. In this treatment it takes 3 months. My opinion in this is to avoid acidity, drink water to make water balance in the body. I think its natural way treat to treat piles. We just have keep patience .
Large Hadron Collider
2019-10-30 08:04:53 UTC
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Post by v***@gmail.com
Hi I am veer I just add my experience about this, i have internal piles, when i go to piles specialist after one year for checkup . doctor told me after physical check up that I have had internal piles. Then told me for surgery otherwise it won't cure. I asked I too week for operation. So I left it. Than I go for ayuervedic treatment previously I am treated with tablet named himalay piles and piles ointment these medicine help to cure with little bleeding once in a week. After second month same cont... Ultimately bleed in stops. Than after I get itching, doctor said it due to acidity. Than treated with zandu panchalist a little bit acidity gone than after treated with zandu nityam tablets but after 4 tablets itching is more i can't bear it. Then treated avail tablets to calm down itching. It little bit helps to down itching. But not completely. Than after I start applying camphor mixed with coconut oil to affected area twice daily along snidz bathing after 3 days itching gone. With this I eat an apple per day and drink one glass of water during morning and afternoon per hour. My meals includes rice with tomato curry which free of spices and chilly. Yoga pranayam every morning once. Now I am free of itching and bleeding. In this treatment it takes 3 months. My opinion in this is to avoid acidity, drink water to make water balance in the body. I think its natural way treat to treat piles. We just have keep patience .
Dairy and peanuts are generally to avoid if you are having piled
haemorrhoids, because piles are abnormal growths, and dairy and peanuts
promote growth. If you are an adult you do not need to grow more until
you are trying to put on muscle. Eat fatty meat and organs to rebuild
the blood without promoting overgrowth.

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